in this thread you can post, but if post. Apprechiated feedback - should be accuiered! With "post" mainly "sientific" "artical" is meant.
---buddism and christianity are both 40% indo-european---
prolog are not very important, there for I will just post a no very important fact:
Did you know buddism spread from india to china not by southeast asia by by the back door
of eastern asia, that is from central asia and west east asia. Witch in fact was carryed
by tocharians!
But wait there is more!
What is buddism? Buddism is in fact a indo-european religion(!) and still not indo-european!
Just like christianity, with is in fact a indo-european religion allso but allso not a
indo-european religion. How can this be? Well we need to step, up the game and go in to
the wierd world of indo-european religions.
Well, I can say much of the little I know, but that is too much. But one fact I will say,
that is not at all relevant to this subject. In indo-european religion gods all have
a "nature" phenomen associetad with theme. [I will use germanic indo-european gods, but
like 80-90% of all indo-european gods are the same functionality]
That is, god(thor) has lightning, freyja is for fertility(children birth and allso good harvest),
loki has fog[NOTE:Loki is suppos to be a lock, that is hard to understand. Just as it is hard to
understand(to orient) in fog. This give the impresion of a playful personality. But in fact it is more
like riddle personality is being represented by Loki], rainbow for Heimdall, dissapearing
people of the water for some water god or some shit, a god for the sun, a good for the moon to be
associated with, a god for smithing to be associated withl, etc.
Now this may be confusing... but there is a good reason. In this video:akX_bd5qYdM
ha miss explain. He say Thor is "about" gravity. What is in reallity in my "opinion"
is that the 1st indo-european where just a shamanism religion. That is they just
belived and prayed to the elements of nature. They just sad, the sun is a god,
same with moon, and rocks, trees, gravity, making tool is allso a "spiritual
power/god". But then the indo-european got 30% higher brain power(hahahaha, inferiour
basque and other shit people, hahahahaha) and instead of thinking a "higher spirutual power"
they humenised this powers.
Thus nature phenomenas and "specific tradesman phenomenas" where humenised(most likley to relate better):
gravity, falling dow(like a blade to cut your enemy) -> thor
sun -> sun god
mon -> mon god
etc...
Now, there was allso not only gods. But there where allso small gods. These small gods we call
"dwarfs". Dwarfs main pupos is to explain the small things, like:why you sleep, who is making the
sound when you sleep, who is making the hole in the ship - so it sinks, who is it that leads you to
the good mineral vein in the cave mine.
Yes, the is many big difference between dwarfs and gods. That is, gods look like humans,
gods "protect" human at any "cost". Like house dwarf, if you are nice to him/her he will be nice to you
and bad to the house dwarf, she/he will be bad to you.
Now, maybe you have read this far, and discovered a problem! That is "specific tradesman phenomenas"
turned in to gods. This is very simple to explain, in indo-european religion people prayed the same
way people do it today in india. They had cast systems, for tradesman(ships?). There for a warrior
only prayed to Thor, only a farmer prayed to freja, and so on...(the example I give here are really bad).
There for the indo-european never prayed to all gods at the same time, but they of course
had a centrelised "god family".
Every god, had a specific tool, witch was used for doing the "work"
(nature phenomenas or "specific tradesman phenomenas") he/she was doing.
Why is Thor associated with lightning? Because when dose all dark creature come out? At the nigth
time, but thor is there for the humans go down from earth to the ground to hit the evil trolls.
The lightning bolt is suppos to represent Thor hiting his hammer at a troll. And a hammer, because
if you hamer on something the "correct" way there will be sparks flowing - the same with where the
ligthning bolt was hit upon.
When christianity came, the old gods where not forgoten. Becuse they could not be forgoten.
E.g:The sun was a god, but just because you want to stop beliving in the sun god of indo-european
religion dose not stop the sun from rising every morning.
You can stop beliving in Thor, but it will not stop Thor to protect you from the evil Trolls at nigth.
As you can read, the indo-european gods where in there most simplest forms "nature" phenomenas with
could not be unprayed too. This made the god being transformed in to christian symbols, by the church.
But what was not transformed was the tools of the gods! The hammer of Thor can be found in
European fairy tales. Maybe it is no longer barer of a god, but by a witch or a troll with is
to be found by a pesant boy in a adventure. The most striking god that was not forgoten in Indo-european
religion was the sun god, for 2 main reasons:You can stop beliving in the sun god, but that will not
stop him from rising every day in front of your eyes and 2nd the son god is of a different "god family"
the orgian "god family". This is because the sun god is up in the sky, and not on earth - thus
you know, wherey far away.
Dwarfs where not gods, but they where just humanoids. Dwarfs may not belive in the human pegan gods,
but they - as humanoids belived in something allso. This is why in christianity dwarfs where 100% "bad",
on iceland they wanted to convert "dwarfs" to christianity. The dwarfs allso had a "pegan religion",
not in Thor but something else... you get me?
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Now, back to buddhism! There sould not be any suprise if I say:buddishm and christianity developed
for the same rason out of prginal indo-european religion. This could be because:
thus the same god if we have NO gods!
3. maybe something else...
But what ever the reason, there was the same result! The indo-european socety collpased! The
reason why india and south Europe are shit holes, is becuase they both had the same history -
by witch creationg "buddish/christian" religion out of indo-european religion. What you do, is smple -
take the indo-european religion and strip away all the gods, and you have a recepie for disaster.
But dont worry! Indo-european people who have not addoppted your religion will "very easy" accept
and convert to your religion, because it is so similar and yet not. Thus tocharians addopted
buddism fast, same with celts(?). Then the chines turn came, but they where not indo-european?
Well they where! or athleast ruled other wise they whould not have buddism.
What I am saying, is... that chines adopted buddism because it came from indo-europeans and
they where ruled over indo-europeans who had buddism... and thoses indo-european(tocharians not
aryans am I speaking about!) had taken buddism because buddism is very close to indo-european religion.
NOTE:Yes, I will stay true to my selfe, and say some parts may be "bullshit". But I hope the reader
can decide for him/her selfe what to belive and not.
NOTE:Buddism is as close to orginal indo-european religion as christianity is close to orginal
indo-european religion. And that is about 40% close to indo-european religion.
--->>>can you<<< program for me test compresion program based on library of babel/infinity monkey problem?---
Backgorund:This is writen to "maybe" give inspiration or something... and ideas about
the "infinite monkey theorem". This problems and philosophy woke up again in my mind
afther seeing this video:GDrBIKOR01c (staring at 17:00, with what I am to talk about).
There are some very wrong facts he is saying, witch I will correct.
To begin, I will say this(witch maybe has no relevance to the topic at hand):
Everything in the abstract world(math, speach/human languges, ideas) are all
to there simplest form data.
With data I mean(the defenision I will be using in my text), very simple that -
all data is in base-1 number system. Think tally marks, that is how people
count the days they have been in prision, with simple strokes, e.g.:
III = 3 days
IIIII = 5 days
IIIIIIIIIIIIIII = 15 days
Now, all of the abstract world can be represented in data(Tally marks), that is
math, languges and ideas in there simplest form can be represented by a pile of sticks.
Now, there comes a good question maybe, the read has. How can a pile of sticks be the same
thing as langues, math and ideas? Well, it is very simple! It is how you represent
the tally marks that form the ideas, languegs and maths. It is very important to understand,
that it is how we represent data that is making up the world of abstract thouths.
For example, maybe you have heard somebody say:"I will count in binary" and then he/she
say:"001, 010, 011, 100, 101, and so on...". This is in fact a "retard", because you
can not count in binary! You can only count in base-1 in math, a.k.a tally marks. But
you can represent tally marks in binary form. Thus the correct saying for the action whould be:
"I wll count in base-1 represented in binary form".
As you can see, you can only count in base-1. But you can represent base-1 in endles ways(endles base-X
ways). Now, dont be sad! if you thouth there where other ways to count then base-1. You can count
in base-1 and then count the 2nd time by adding 2 to base-1, thus get a number pattern counting system, e.g.:
-5,-3,-2,0,2,3,5,6,8,9,11
This, whould not be counting in base-1. But if whould be tricky to make simple calculation as
minus and plus because you whould get in between(for example 6-5=1 the number 1, wtich dose not exist)
numbers that whould make it useless. But I am sure there dose exist other number pattern counting system
that are not in base-1. It is only todays mathematicans are not "hip hop", to explore these concepts.
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Now, if you have not realised it allready, sounds and languges can allso be expresed in data. Or
rather better is to say data is expresing languges and sounds. E.G.:
In ASCII a character in binary that is for example 01011011 represent the letter A, same with sound
files. NOTE:The number 01011011 dose not correspond to the letter A, I am just using here a example and
not a practical example.
And the number 01011011 is a representation of the base-1 number 91, a.k.a:
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
But, remember this is only how we interpritate the numbers. Thus how you interpirtate
the data, you will see different worlds(abstract world, not physical words)!
The pysical world, has absolutly nothing with data to do! There dose not exist math
i nthe reall world. But when you say something, like a sound. It is beeing
interpritated in to data.
NOTE:I am not a lingust, but on my free time I am.
When you say:"hello", athleast for me, you say it like this:
hhhhhhhhhheelllo (you say the h sound longer then all the other sounds).
And the pitch allso variates, on the different letters. This gives us data that we
can represent in a funciton with a graph witch has X and Y axels. This function can now be
represented in to two directions, that is the 1st make it more simpler
representation of the data, witch will lead to base-1 representation of the data - as
it is the most simplest form of representing data and the 2nd way to represent
the function in languges(adding more function to a bigger function making languge)
I hope you do agree with my statement:
all ideas, languges and math in the abstract world are data that can be represented in most
simplest form is base-1
I am not saying, logic can be represented in data. And all data is base-1 at its core,
it is only how we represent it, it becomes different things, e.g.:
The number 92 can be represented as the letter A and allso the sound A - but they are
in the most simplest form the same thing
In the pysical worlds there dose not exist data, but we interpritate the pysical world to data, e.g.:
There dose not exist, 5 fingers on a human hand, it is just how we interpritate the pysical world things
to the abstract world with data. Math dose not exist in the reall world - or maybe it dose...
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Now back to the video!(GDrBIKOR01c) at 17:00 he say:
"Why not send everything? We could, ..."
The truth is, it whould not work if we could not send everything. Why? Because if we whould
send everything they would not know how to interpret(understand) the information sent. We
need to send instruction how to understand the information(a dictonary).
For example the english and dutch have the same alphabet. But english speakers can not
understand dutch and vice versa. Yes, they can understand both some similar words, and some
of the sounds, and some sounds are like different in pronunciatin.
The point is, they speak the same letters but can not understand eatch other
because they dont know how to interpret the information(thye need a dictonary
and some understanding of the grammar). But to its core the grammar is so similar and
the vocals of the alphabet that they should be able to understand eatch other, but they don't!
Because they interpritate it differently.
Another example is, english speakers can understand to 100% japanes vocal languges, but
they can not interpret the languges. Thus understand 0% of what the data is saying,
but they can understand the data. This is because japanes dose not add any addional
sounds to it alphabet. Thus Enlgish speakers can say japanes words but japanes can
not say english words. Because japanes dont know all english vocals. and stuff...
I hope you get my point, it is how we interpret data that create the
abstract world it is describing.
Now, back to the begining, with the qeustion:
"Why not send everything? We could, ..."
There are 3 ways you can do this:
But here a intresting question appear! What if Alliens are sending us a message
that we can not interpret? Well, if it was a message similar to library of babel
we whould only see random data, because we dont know how to interpret it. Maybe
rigth now they are trying to contact with us, and in a way we could understand theme.
But we can not interpret there data, and missinterpret there message as random noise
from outer space.
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But now we will talk abou the main subject of this text, the library of babylon.
It works like this:
...
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From the video we get this statement:
"what is on each page is already predetermined. So, in a way, every page already exists."
This is to some exten wrong and to some extent right. He say "so, in a way" means
hes statement is 50% correct. And this is truth. The truth is that, the possibilty
of the page exist, but it dose not exit until you create it.
The number 10^1003784568237683427643782683424 dose not exist! but the possibilty
of the number to exist, exist. Maybe the number 10^1003784568237683427643782683424
dose not exist, we dont know yet until we have seen it. But the possibily
for it, is very likley.
NOTE:From elvOZm0d4H0 we can learn, infinity is not a number, but a concept.
There for the number 10^1003784568237683427643782683424 maybe or not
may exist. Only if we "discover" the number it exist. But as long as no body
has seen the number 10^1003784568237683427643782683424 it dose not exit. BUt
there exist a great potensial for this number to exist.
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Now because the library of babylon is comprised of randome letters combinded together, about
0.00[insert infinity]001% can be read and understood. But that is only for a english speaker!
For example, just as much text can be read for a Dutch speaker - because they have the same
alphabet.
Thus in the library of babylon, the amount of text that a english speaker can understand is:
0.00[insert infinity]001%
a dutch speaker can undertand is:
0.00[insert infinity]001%
and so on... for people with same alphabet as english languges(or less letters then english alphabet)
Now, if you read all of the library of babylon, you will stumble upon
the "diconary of library of babylon" with will define new english words.
Thus "random" words can be up looked at the "diconary of library of babylon"
and there for you can understand the text 100%(or athleast more then 0.00[insert infinity]001%)
in English!
But wait! If I can read the library of babylon in both english and dutch.
Will I not be able to get to meaning of the same word? The turth is! Yes!
It is only how you interpret the data. And it can have there for 2 completly different meanings.
As a example, the library of babylon gives us this text:
"The present Dutch standard language is derived from Old
Dutch dialects spoken in the Low Countries that were first
recorded in the Salic law, a Frankish document written around 510."
It is writen in English, but we will interpret in my "own defined languges", here is the diconary:
Dutch -> English
language -> cow
dialects -> particular
spoken -> bread
Thus the text is interpret like this, in my "own defined languges":
The present English standard cow is derived from Old
English particular bread in the Low Countries that were first
recorded in the Salic law, a Frankish document written around 510.
As you can see, the sentence is 100% correct and make scence. You can
just change the defenision(swap around) of some words and get completly different meanings. This is a short
example, but it is more fun if you make on a long text! and you will truley see the difference.
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But! if I can read English and Dutch the library of babylon, surley I will read at the end the same things, right?
NO! Because there are words in Dutch that have no coresponding translation to English and vice versa.
Here:9I8mQpFAJ50
And there is no diconary in the library of babylon that can give you the deffenion of that word!
Thus you will interpret things in the dutch library of babylon that you can not interpret
in the english library of babylon!
Thus you can not send "everything"! - but you can send all "data", in base-1. But how to
interpret the langues? I have no idea what you where thinking!
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Thus, as you understand the library of babylon is a lingustic question.
Now, the library of babylon will not have the data of all that can be writen.
Because if that whould be true. There shoul be for example a endles string of the letter
"m" and "n", and so on... but because you do not see on every page the letter m,
this infiny dose not exit inside of the library of baylon. NOTE:I hope you understand
there exist different kinds of infinitys like:
0.33333333333333333[infinity]
is totaly different infinity from this:
0,44444444444444444[infinity]
For example, pi is "infinity" as far as we know, but it dose not have all infinitys.
Same with the library of babylon thus it can not expres "everything".
It is imposibil to expres infinity, as infinity is infinty.
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A text like:
"michael stevens was born on january twenty third sineteen eighty six in kansas city missorui"
can exist in the infinity that the library of babylon has. But it only exist if we search for it!
Other wise we can not for 100% say it exist in the library of babylon. The reason why it exist,
is because it is possibil for us, too interpret the data. This sentece whould have a different meaning
if we interpret it differently.
Thus data in it selfe is useles, it is just a pille of sticks in base-1. If we interpret it,
it has more meaning, but it can never live up to the meaning of the physical world. Because
there is only one way to fully understand langues, ideas and math - it is to look at the reall world,
becuase the world of data is nothing without the real world. The library of babylon is nothing of value
without a reall world, you and me. We are not simply text on papper we are more then nothing. Data can
not describe us, but we can decribe us in data.
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Thus if we whould go into a computer simulator, the computer simulation can not describe this world
more "reall" then what this world is. The same amount of reality or less can be only described in a
computer simulated world.
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A real life application for the library of babylon whould be compresion, instead of
rainbow tables we can use the library of babylon! It eliminates loop backs for example!
You can have in the end of the text a END BLOCK or something.
We can allso use it for general compresion...
But how much do you gain? probebly it dose not work:
https:111111111111111111111111111111111111111111//en.wiki111111111111111111111111111111111111111111pedia.org/wiki/Range_encoding
http:111111111111111111111111111111111111111111//cs.stack111111111111111111111111111111111111111111exchange.com/questions/42464/are-there-any-compression-algorithms-based-on-p
https:111111111111111111111111111111111111111111//git111111111111111111111111111111111111111111hub.com/philipl/pifs
https:111111111111111111111111111111111111111111//en.wiki111111111111111111111111111111111111111111pedia.org/wiki/BBP-type_formula
http:111111111111111111111111111111111111111111//cs.stack111111111111111111111111111111111111111111exchange.com/questions/29809/using-base-80-for-compressing-files
Do you think this kind of a program could be created for compresion in a reall world application?
Can you program this? I am to lazy... rigth now ot try. Plz do it for me!
Thus as in conclusion, the video from v-a-ue was just a waste of time, life and energy with 100%
disinformation in the later part(from 17:00 and onwards just "disinformation"), as all what I
have sad is just simple logic that any 15-18 year old person(maybe not basque people and niggers)
can figure out.
THE END
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Did you know you can create a new languges from a existen langues by discarding
allrady used volcabulary? Take for example English:
We have:
"This section gives only a general overview of the phonemes of Dutch. For further
details on different realisations of phonemes, dialectal differences and example words,
see the full article at Dutch phonology."
To make a new langues, lets discard these words:
a, the, phonemes, at
Thus we get:
"This section gives only general overview of of Dutch. For further
details on different realisations of phonemes, dialectal differences and example words,
see full article at Dutch phonology."
Now! this as you can read is very bad example, but if you thinker enouth you create
a really good languges! and even add some of you own grammar and volcabulary.